* – Attendance; A- Absent; N – No Apologies Received

Cllr Mrs N. Turton – Mayor (in the Chair) *
Cllr. M. Fice *
Cllr Mrs C. Bricknell *
Cllr T. Lang *
Cllr R. Whitfield A
Cllr Mrs L. Sinnott A
Cllr K. Baker A
Cllr P. Lafferty-Holt A
Cllr M. Long *

Also in attendance:
Dist. Cllr S. Wright A
Dist. Cllr Mrs Pearce *
Cty. Cllr. R Gilbert A
Gill Claydon (Clerk) *

Pete Robinson (Cemetery Manager and Project Officer) *
WPC Jo Pengilly A
Kristen Bounds Kingsbridge Gazette *


Members were invited to acknowledge any declarable interests, including the nature and extent of such interests that they may have in any items to be considered at this meeting. None received.


Janet Cohen noted that she had forwarded her objection and that all her points were covered within her letter. Wendy Morall noted what she had said which was basically how near the proposal was to her property, how far it extended to the front and that without a pitched roof she would lose light to her kitchen and side lounge windows. The property owner, Lucinda Davis, was also present in relation to Summerleaze. Her architect was also supposed to be present but at that point had not arrived. She continued that it had taken her six months to design the house as they had major problems with the land due to the sloping terrain and had tried to balance this and fit it into the environment. They had considered the previous planning by Mr Slater and looked at objections at that point to deal with them and thus made both side windows opaque even though they came further out. She advised that everything done had been in consideration of these points and the cedar roof tackled some of the water discharge as it would absorb water rather than running off into the main drain. They also shaped the roof in this way for less impact than a pitched roof as the height for that would be higher. She explained that they went through the pre planning procedure and worked with District Council and made changes to the plans. She was then advised by the planning authority to speak to neighbours and she had shown them designs. Janet Cohen disagreed as apparently only one plan was provided that did not give a realistic understanding of the proposal. Lucinda Davis said she understood Wendy Morall’s concerns and had talked about the boundary with Janet Cohen and how to maintain the edging. She had not received a letter from Janet Cohen or any complaints and/or feedback so was surprised about these objections.

She then went on to state that the pre-application plans had been sent to the local district councillors, but they had received no feedback from them. The District Planning committee had worked with her and was happy with the design. Stephen Thomas explained he had seen the plans and he had warned the applicant that this was a difficult change for people to take style wise, but with a lot of development in that part of Salcombe such as the property owned by Mr Valentine and at the school it looked inevitable that there would be more development along Drake Road. He therefore hoped that Lucinda’s concept was taken seriously as an improvement on the original Summerleaze. Another lady present stated she had seen the plans and had been visiting Salcombe for 30 years and over that time seen many changes. When she saw older buildings becoming neglected she welcomed a redevelopment in this charming way, especially the garden side which had been given a lot of thought and thus a barren side would be very green.

Rob Wheeler considered the drawings and noted that it was hard to work out the dimensions and felt that whilst as a standalone property in the right setting this would be fine it was not in this location. Having taken the side elevation along with other details from the District Council site and compared these to the recent original application for a pitched roof, over laying these drawings the proposal was quite significant. For a flat roof the structure must have higher walls which had an overbearing effect on other properties. The RICS Right to Light document referred to was in fact titled 25 and 45degrees and these should be borne in mind. This building was to be set significantly forward, and he produced diagrams showing this in overlays. There was also going to be excavation there and there had been major works two doors down. This was an unmade, unadopted and single-track lane and the sheer intrusion of work for the last three years had been relentless. He stated that it may not be a planning issue but should planning be minded to approve there must be a site management plan. Mallards below would soon be commencing, and they would also want to use this road. Janet Cohen noted that of concern was the fact that her PV solar panels would be starved of light and she was advised by Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce that this was a material consideration.

Rob Wheeler also noted the Cachel submission and that the new application had no changes and there was still inappropriately positioned, and he felt more than enough already had been said.

He also noted that there was an item on the agenda dealing with an adverse possession claim and enquired what piece of land this actually referred to as land in Salcombe was valuable. It was advised that this was land opposite the property Puffins and that legal advice had been sought and town council would respond. He noted that when he had been on the town council previously he had done a considerable amount of research and signed a Statutory Declaration to be submitted with a Land Registry claim and would support such if it were required again.

Angus Lugsdin of Salcombe Gin was present and wished to speak to the Beach Touch Rugby licence application. He explained that they would use veg ware biodegradable cups and, as last year, all rubbish was to be taken away. The feedback after last year was great and they thought why not hold the event earlier. Tides did not allow them to use this area after Bank Holiday weekend and he advised that the South Sands hotel and beach café stated they wanted it run earlier. As the Regatta was run within town he felt this was out of town and did not conflict. It was an inclusive family orientated event and prizes were just for teams entering the spirit of the event. He was asked if they were donating to the Regatta. There was no entry fee, but he suggested a £30 entry fee and they could give proceeds to the RNLI. It was advised that locally during Regatta week no other charities raised money as the Regatta raised its money in that week alone to enable them to provide this the following year.

At this point the architect and agent for Summerleaze, Paul Humpries had arrived and asked to speak. He noted there had been extensive pre-application discussions with planning officers and consultation made to district ward councillors. He had a scale photo montage provided by a digital camera which illustrated the proposal was below the skyline and to minimize the development they had set the accommodation back in tiers. He felt it was residential in scale and commensurate with the area and was a demonstrable improvement on the current property and street scene, so he asked town council to give it considerable consideration.

District Councilors’ Report
Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce advised that the District Waste Project outsourcing had gone to outside tender and would move to the next and final stage and companies would start detailed work. Also, the Newton and Noss referendum on their Neighbourhood Plans had been meant they were now adopted and being used. She stated that Salcombe Neighbourhood Plan needed to press on but noted the architect had been away.

Cllr Fice raised the concern that the promised bin emptying and street cleaning services were not being met by District. At a meeting back in March/April with Honey Foskett District had promised bin emptying 3 times a day and a road sweeper in town 5 days a week. Pete Robinson Project Manager had raised this matter and would raise again with Honey Foskett. Cllr Long advised he had rung the out of hours number and logged a complaint that the public bins were overflowing at 7.45p.m. and that they had not been collected. Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce forcefully stated that bringing such matters to twice monthly meets would not assist the District Councillor in dealing with such matters and that if town council had concerns they must copy them into or send an email to say such complaint had been lodged. Then the District Councillors could follow such matters up. Cllr Long advised he would do so from here on.

It was noted that at a recent meeting Leader of the Council, John Tucker’s, response had been if they took away the bins there would be no rubbish, but this was challenged as it would not work in Salcombe. Visitors wanted to discard their rubbish. The mid-week road sweeper Dartmouth was off, and it was suggested to the Salcombe sweeper that he could do both. In view of the amount of coverage needed as this time of year this would dilute the Salcombe service. Monday and Friday sweeping service was very good but Tuesday to Thursday was questionable.

Cllr Fice noted he had reported that Western Power had wrecked the steps from Buckley down to the quay and although District had been on to the contractor they had been repaired, of sorts, but as this was a South Hams asset he suggested they should check the work. Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce advised that the locality officer should be asked to take photos and report back to assets team.

Cllr Long noted that the road sweeping on Saturday and Sunday used to include early sweeps through town at 6.15 – 6.30a.m. so those areas were cleared, and rubbish picked up through Fore Street to Island Street before people were starting to move around. Then about 2 months ago the Rota changed and now the road sweeper was not starting till after 6a.m. and closer to 7a.m. This was difficult as this time of year people were up about with increased traffic around. For some reason there had been a change and yet town council had not been informed and this had affected the service.

The North Sands parking meter been discussed previously and Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce had sent photographs and yet it still was not working for over a week. This had happened previously as in the February half term, etc.

Cllr Lang advised that residents at North Sands had complained about camping on the Green and that the campers were not using the toilets and going in the woods. Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce however did not feel this was true as the public toilets were still open. She acknowledged that people were doing this but with the hot weather and it being over the weekend it was difficult to stop as the campers kept changing. She would ask Environmental Health to report back.

The Mayor asked why District Councillors were specifically excluded from the recent Aspirations discussions called by the Leader of the Council, John Tucker and officers Chris Brook and Darren Arulvasagam. She responded that this was because the discussions were not strictly a council matter as it was about a Trust. However, the Mayor and Cllr Fice took issue with this because it was noted that all ward members at District had been side lined and the discussion was not to do with Trust land. Dist Cllr Mrs Pearce would look into this. Cllr Fice asked what was happening with regard to the café set up within Cliff House Gardens. She believed works were finished and the tenant was fitting it out with their kitchen equipment at present.

Police Report
There was no report from the police.


It was AGREED to co-opt Mary Kemp and the Acceptance of Office and Declaration of Interests would be completed in due course.


The Minutes of the meeting dated 11th July 2018 were amended to include the word ‘not’ within the response to planning application 3419 before being duly signed by the Mayor as a true and correct record. This amendment did not affect the response as it had been preceded with Objection and was therefore obvious.


The following applications were considered and such observations from town council submitted to District.

  • 1768/18/HHO Householder application for addition of a new entrance porch and door and a separate double garage on existing hardstanding Byelanes, Moult Road, Salcombe TQ8 8LG – No objection. However a query was raised with regard to a tree within the vicinity of where the garage was to be erected and planning was requested to ensure that no damage would happen to this tree and ensure protection during the build.
  • 1825/18/HHO Retrospective householder application for improvements to parking area Underdeck, Cliff Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JQ – Objection. This would remove a public amenity view as there used to be a clear view of the estuary from Little Head up to Smalls and since works had commenced nothing could be seen and further there was proposed planting on top. Since the increase in wall height gradually being nudged up the public view was only of sky. Historic walls appeared to have been removed on entrance down to Salcombe Court and this proposal did not blend with this Conservation Area.
  • 2054/18/HHO Householder application for single storey rear extension to kitchen and first floor extension to detached garage with associated landscaping works End House, 42 Bakerswell, Cliff Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JQ – No objection.
  • 2055/18/LBC Listed Building Consent for single storey rear extension to kitchen and first floor extension to detached garage with associated landscaping works End House, 42 Bakerswell, Cliff Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JQ – No objection.
  • 2080/18/FUL New driveway to existing dwelling and new detached dwelling Cachel, Onslow Road, Salcombe TQ8 8AH – Objection. Whilst there had been slight reduction in the roof height of 0.6m the changes to the roof design had not changed its prominence in this landscape affecting the street scene. The proposed building was felt to be overdevelopment and thus overbearing for this site as it also removed all amenity space in the new development and reduced the Cashel amenity space. There would be overlooking of neighbouring properties and Town Council remained concerned with both points of access, by this proposal, being situated immediately adjacent to the school crossing hatchings and also in close proximity to the St. Dunstans turn off. Visually the properties in Onslow Road fell away gently down the hill.
  • 2098/18/HHO Householder application for proposed removal of roof and construction of additional accommodation Summerleaze, Drake Road, Salcombe TQ8 8EG – Objection. This application proposal was not felt to be just removal of the roof and construction of additional accommodation due to the size of construction and large removal of earth. This would be overdevelopment of the site and the design was not in keeping with other Drake Road properties and the street scene. A major concern was the loss of light to Miranah and the proposal was felt to be unneighbourly to neighbouring properties as both would visually have a distinct large expanse of wall with windows in them. Concern of overlooking to Miranah from the garden was noted as the upper terrace level included a bridge going across to the garden which was situated at exactly the height of the living accommodation of the neighbouring property. Construction works in that locality, were questioned due to the rocky, instability of the area and access to site was difficult with large vehicles unable to turn around within the road and town council was not sure how the road would cope with such activity. The design was not felt to blend and nor even use the local vernacular of slate and with its pitches was grossly out of keeping. Housing within that type of area and street scene should evolve and not be a revolution with its completely overbearing mass when viewed from Coronation Road and Drake Road.
    The applicant and surveyor left along with two other members of the public.
  • 2167/18/HHO Householder application for amendments to planning consent 2807/15/HHO for roof extension (Retrospective) Byelanes, Moult Road, Salcombe TQ8 8LG – No objection.
  • 2193/18/FUL Demolition of existing single dwelling to provide 4 new dwelling units (Re-submission of 2433/17/FUL) Rendoc, Herbert Road, Salcombe TQ8 8HW – Objection. These proposals moved this property forward and thus closer to Herbert Road and therefore did not follow the natural building line along Herbert Road. Four properties within this site were felt to be overdevelopment that would completely remove any amenity space to only provide parking for the residents. The four units had fourteen toilets and therefore a concern remained with regard to such impact on the sewerage system and with the whole site being concreted over how it could provide additional runoff onto the highway with this increased impermeable surface. This proposal would add additional traffic into what was currently a back-garden area with movement along the sides of adjacent properties where vehicles are not currently. Therefore, the development was seen as antisocial creating an apartment complex in a residential area. The emerging Salcombe Neighbourhood Plan did not support infill development, and this was seen as garden grabbing.
  • 2203/18/LBC Listed Building Consent for proposed replacement of 2 x existing windows on West Elevation with some re-pointing and some replacement of natural stone to match existing The Sculpture Gallery, Thorning Street, Salcombe TQ8 8DW – No objection.
  • 2242/18/FUL Change of use from ancillary accommodation into a separate residential dwelling with associated access, parking and residential curtilage Long Park Studio, Long Park, Higher Batson, TQ8 8NG – Objection to the inappropriate gradual planning application Change of Use of a business unit intended for such commercial purpose and a loss to the town.


  • Various letters/email of objection to Rendoc, Summerleaze and Cachel forwarded to town councillors.


It was AGREED to approve delegated authority to the Town Clerk to respond to planning applications received during the August recess following input from councillors.


An application by Salcombe Distilling Company to hold a Salcombe Gin Beach Touch Rugby Tournament to include activities proposed – touch rugby event and giving away complimentary mini gin and tonics from a stand on 17th August 2018 between 4pm and 8pm at South sands beach, Salcombe was considered. It was noted that this application would have been better considered and sorted before the Regatta programme was printed. It was intended to be held in the middle of August when South Sands beach would have a lot of visitors and boats plus families who might not want to take part in such an event. Last year the event was well run and did not inconvenience beach users but then it was held later in the season. The application stated the usage did not impact South Sands Ferry but it was felt it could. The amount of space allocated was too much even with the tide being lower and people would have brought boats up the sand and there needed to be an area allocated boats to be left, the margin was too tight. Had the application come in for identical times as last year town council would probably not have objected. The tents for hospitality were felt to be positioned where beach users would be sitting.

It was AGREED to object to this application due to the proposal being proposed within the peak time of the season and impacting on the space available for visiting people and boats. This was a dog free beach and with the current good weather the beaches were more crowded than usual, and the beach was used for sand castles. Consideration needed to be given to balance the impact for tourist use. Town Council would have supported this event later in the season after the August Bank Holiday.

Due to the August recess the Mayor requested that an application received in the last few days from Crew Clothing for a dinner to be held on South Sands Beach on 30th August 2018 between 12 noon and 4p.m also be considered. Activities proposed were a commercial event positioned on one side of the beach where customers purchased a ticket to attend with food and wine provided, all sourced locally, cooked by local chefs (BBQ). Expected attendance was around 60 with the area cordoned off and supervised providing alcohol, glass ware, cutlery and quiet background music.
Angus Lugsdin left the meeting.

It was AGREED to object to this as it was a commercial event which would take place during the Bank Holiday week and remove access to a public beach during the peak season. It was not a community event and would bring glassware and cutlery together with a BBQ on the beach where the public would be.


Cllr Fice had been through the documentation. It was AGREED to accept the renewal recommendation for annual insurance at a cost of £2934.23.


Locations for a welcome sign to be placed at the top of town were DEFERRED due to the working party councillors not being present.


This was DEFERRED awaiting the September meeting when more town councillors could be present to contribute to such an important decision.


The Mayor stood the meeting down to allow Rob Wheeler to speak.

He had historically put a lot of work into for a Land Registry application. Town Council noted the piece of land that had been identified and that the applicant had previously asked that town council guarantee it would not be built on. At the time dragons’ teeth were installed around the Berry and a quote was obtained for this other piece of land alongside. Rob Wheeler felt it needed to be fenced back then. The applicant’s argument was that he had maintained the layby for many years but historically Rob Wheeler had used Google Earth and found that in 2004 there was no layby, in 2010 no layby and then more recently it became apparent. This claim was not initiated until 2010. Within this application Statutory Documents had been present and these were legal statements. Rob Wheeler was concerned because this was good amenity land and he felt the least offensive body to own it was the Town Council as they were a not for profit organisation.

Rob Wheeler noted his previous town council duties and that he had a meeting 5 years ago and Cllr Fice had done so as Mayor since. This matter was important and needed to be dealt with legally.

The meeting was advised that the Town Clerk had forwarded this application to the Town Council solicitor and taken advice on how to respond. It was AGREED to accept and pay for the legal advice provided and they would respond accordingly.


Due thanks were given to Cllr Mrs Turton for all her hard work on a well put together document.

It was AGREED to adopt the final document as it stood.


A request from the Swimming Pool Committee for a grant towards a Topline Tech 2000 dosing system at a cost of £2400 was received. It was AGREED that in view of the monies held by District Council to apply to take these monies from Salcombe’s Section 106 funds.


The changes proposed by South Hams District Council to the waste collection from Bonfire Hill with their increase in charges to include a further 4% were tabled. Previously the annual amount paid was approximately £170 as this depended on the amount of bin empties. With these changes proposed it would mean that there would be a significant increase. Reducing the size of the bin capacity from 660 litres to 240 litres would be £8.06 x 52 weeks and would work out at £419 p.a.

It was AGREED that this provision was required within the Bonfire Hill cemetery but to reduce to a 240l bin x 52weeks at £419.00p.a. and seek other provider quotes for future years.


Arrangements for an informal visit to Salcombe by the Brigadier and Lady Sponsor, representatives of HMS Magpie, were tabled and a civic expenditure up to £350 was APPROVED.


The Mayor noted a request from a resident that her child be allowed to travel on the park and ride bus for free. It was felt that this service provision was for the car park users. The charging would be considered next season with regard to concessionary tickets and child fares but at present all rates remained.

On the 12 July Cllr John Tucker, Leader of SHDC, Chris Brook, Head of Assets SHDC and Darren Arulvasagam, Business Development SHDC called a meeting to hear about Salcombe’s ‘aspirations’. In attendance was the Town Mayor, Town Clerk and Cllr Fice – Neighbourhood Development Plan Chairman. Town Council was categorically informed by John Tucker that our Ward representatives were purposely not invited to join in with this discussion on the basis that they would put forward their own opinions, and they wanted to hear first-hand town council aspirations. We found this most peculiar, especially since Dist Cllr Wright was Deputy Leader. We informed them that our aspirations were all contained in our emerging Neighbourhood Plan and Open Spaces Sports and Recreation Plan and asked if they had read them. They stated that they were aware of them but not of their contents. We reiterated that Salcombe would like to see truly affordable housing, affordable employment units, maintain open spaces and views, and retain at least the existing number of parking spaces. They were also told that they needed to understand that ordinary people in the street were just interested in their bins being emptied and the streets and open areas being swept and kept presentable. Chris Brook asked for our position regarding The Berry. When told that we were continuing to proceed as directed by the community at the public meeting they asked to be excused from the room for a private discussion. They left for 10 minutes, commenting no further upon their return. The Batson Master Plan was raised and town’s impression of a lack of openness. Chris Brook stated that he did not believe the discussions were not open. He further expressed the opinion that many sections of the community had been consulted alongside input following the working group they had selected, and those invited to the consultation/meeting held in Cliff House. When noted that the wider community had not been involved John Tucker said that things did not happen like that and town council should be aware that those who contributed needed to build the design from what they felt were the needs and then this could be presented. Provision of live/work units along Batson was questioned but this had now been abandoned as it was not felt suitable to have residents near such businesses. Chris Brook had on several occasions promised to make the draft Batson document available to Town Council, but to date there had been nothing forthcoming. They informed us that they wanted to provide social housing, indicating that the owners of the land above Batson had offered it to District, and they were exploring a Village Housing Initiative scheme for this site, whereby they would gift the land to District and be able to build two open market properties to sell and recoup monies. The likely level of rent on this social housing was queried as the impression was being given that it would not be as low as possible. The answer was vague but appeared to indicate a level at the upper scale of social housing rents.


  • Cllr Mrs Bricknell – Noted that there were three flats available in Chandlers Heights with another becoming available. On the following Tuesday from 10-12noon Liberty (formerly DCH) would host an open morning for people to view the flats. No pets.
    The lane from Raleigh Road to Onslow Road was overgrown. The hedge was causing a problem and the property owner needed to be approached.
    North Sands garden needed water, but padlock key provided by District was not working. She had no idea where the toilet cleaners were obtaining water from but had reported this problem. That however did not assist the provision of water to the newly created garden she was tending.
    The defibrillator work had been carried out and the new unit could be installed but to date the SWAmbulance contact had not responded. This would be actioned as soon as possible.
  • Cllr Fice – Advised that the First Responder space needed to be more clearly marked as if others parked the signage was not apparent. The reserved space should be painted on the road.
    Highways had repaired a hole down Church Street, but they had only filled half. It was questioned whether one half was not deep enough but felt a misuse of funding if teams had to return.
    Western Power took a digger down the pedestrian steps on to Victoria Quay and pulled it back up by hopper head to balance it and wrecked the steps. They went down and back up on a Sunday evening as the contractors felt they could not get the digger under the arch.
    On leaving Whitestrand car park there used to be an arrow to say one-way street and this was no longer there.
    Bottom of Devon Road motorists kept pulling out on the wrong side of the road. Signage was felt to be sufficient, but this was a hazard.


  • A call to the office from a motorist had highlighted that the location number on the ticket machine did not come up with Salcombe as the location. Further investigation on the Ringo site did not give Bonfire Hill car park and although it was reported no response had been received from Devon County Enforcement or Chris Rook.
  • A further grant of £2000 had been applied for by the Neighbourhood Plan Group and notification was received from Groundworks that the monies had been issued to be remitted to town council.
  • Devon Remembers letter received advising of a partnership between the Royal British Legion and local authorities and organisations in Devon to help communities’ research local stories from the First World War. They had requested to know how Salcombe community would be remembering and celebrating the end of the First World War a 100 years ago.
  • A local business owner advised she had signed up to Plastic Clever and enquired about installing recycling bins in the busiest parts of town, for example Whitestrand Car Park, the long stay car park in Batson, Cliff House Gardens etc. This she felt would not only allow for recycling to take place but would also ease the strain on the general rubbish bins, which she stated were constantly overflowing and frankly smelt awful. A local business owner she had spoken to about this issue stated that she had raised her concerns in the past, only to be told the demand was not there for bins. The correspondent suggested that if she started a petition calling for the Town Council to look into installing several recycling bins throughout the town, it would raise a tremendous amount of support. The meeting advised that Whitestrand car park used to have cans and other recycling bins, but these were taken away due to lack of use. Reintroduction would need to go to District but it was suggested that people should be encouraged to take their waste away and recycle according to collection provision.
  • Request received from Salcombe Regatta Committee for use of Whitestrand car park from the 12th to 17th August for the Regatta. Agreed
  • Dates requested by Dist Cllr Wright for the second tranche of District Council Strategic Plan Engagement events which would then include Salcombe. It was felt that September would capture residents’ comments.
  • Highways were to look at whether the pole with the First Responder sign thereon could be altered so that the sign was more visible.


Bank Balances as at 25th July
Current Account £501.00
Deposit Account £317,066.69

Received: Harbour Hotel – Parking at Car Park £2875.00

Councillors APPROVED Internet payments to:
Foot Anstey – Legal advice £2072.60
HMRC – Tax and NI £753.79
NEST – Pension £146.20
Wages July – £1752.11
Tesco – Photocopier paper and sundries £15.80
Salcombe DIY – 2 x Noticeboard hangers £2.00
Softcat – July £30.85
WPS Insurance – Annual Town Council Insurance £2934.23


The next meeting would be held on Wednesday 12th September 2018 in the Library at Cliff House, Cliff Road, Salcombe at 6.30p.m.

Meeting Closed: 9p.m.

……………………………………………….. 12th September 2018.
Town Mayor.

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