* Denotes Attendance

Cllr. R. Wheeler – Mayor (in the Chair) – *
Cllr R Clark Deputy Mayor – *
Cllr. A. Biggs – *
Cllr Mrs C. Bricknell – *
Cllr H. Taylor – A
Cllr. M. Fice – *
Cllr D. Cohen – *
Cllr T. Lang – *
Cllr Miss J. Clark – A
Cllr Mrs R. King – *
Cllr R. Collings – *
Cllr R. Whitfield – *

Also in attendance:
Dist. Cllr J Carter – A
Dist. Cllr P Coulson – *
Cty. Cllr. R Gilbert – A
Gill Claydon (Clerk) – *
PCSO D. Gibson – A
WPC Jo Pengilly – A
Toby Kingsbridge Gazette – *


Members were invited to acknowledge any declarable interests, including the nature and extent of such interests that they may have in any items to be considered at this meeting as follows:
• Cllr Biggs wished it known that by virtue of his professional and development contacts he would leave the meeting at any point he realised planning matters relating to clients came to be discussed. He would however give advanced notice of declarable interests he was aware of prior to discussion. He therefore noted an interest in application 2256/13/F


The next door neighbours to the Sunnycombe application were in attendance and wished to note their objections. They had considered the 31 pages of detailed drawings from the architect.
Cllr. Mrs King arrived.

They noted from the application that there was a huge area of thatched roof to the rear of the property to be removed and believed that this was out of keeping with the criteria for a Conservation Area in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. The architect in the submission stated this area of thatch was not visible from the public highway which the neighbours asserted was incorrect and misleading and such was clearly visible from the six surrounding houses and highway. They provided photographic evidence. The thatch at Sunnycombe had been there for 350 years and every previous owner maintained such without a problem but it appeared that the current owner wanted to remove it and insert slate. Of further concern was the proposed garage to be built 8 feet below the ground floor level and alongside their cottage. The structure would be underground 6 inches from the neighbours roofline which was also thatched and a Listed Building in the Conservation Area and would incur the removal of about 14 – 15 feet of earth excavated in a valley.

There would also be a detrimental visual effect on The Nook, a 16C cottage, with a below ground garage sitting adjacent. The works were to be very close to The Nook wall, made of cob and straw alone, and could undermine their end structural wall as this old property had no foundations. The fact that a garage was proposed only six inches away from their roofline was not illustrated on any of the architect’s drawings. The proposal for a garden terrace on top of the garage would be only 8 feet from the adjacent property main bedroom window and if people stood on it they would have a clear and uninterrupted of their bed let alone the room, at all times. Also there would be a clear view from the terrace into their sitting room and they would lose total privacy that they currently enjoyed from the whole of their front garden. This was felt to be overdevelopment of the site in a rural hamlet.

The Mayor attempted to speak to planning officer Nils White but being unable to do so spoke to Jenny to obtain feedback for town council to formulate a recommendation for the planning committee to consider. Notably at this moment in time the property enjoyed a terraced garden so the users would probably have always seen into the adjacent front garden although this proposal would intensify that intrusion. However the construction element was significant and notwithstanding the engineer’s reputation the reality of the proposal noted neighbours concern. The shuttered door was also felt to be out of keeping and any such access out of the garage on to the highway a worry. Any building program in this area would have an effect on the filter roads serving the property which was also a concern.

The Mayor questioned the Building Control issues with Dist Cllr Coulson but he advised that as this was not a planning issue it could not be considered.

Police Report

Emailed by WPC Jo Pengilly
Pc. Jo Pengilly wanted to make everyone aware of the Devon and Cornwall Website for Salcombe. She and PCSO Gibson were in the process of updating it and would like to put photos and any problems or events on there so asked if town council would like anything added, or had any lovely landscape photographs as these could be added.

Kingsbridge Police would be promoting a different theme on the subject of road safety. This was their contribution to a nationwide ACPO campaign entitled ‘Policing the Roads’. The theme for February was Driving Standards, so to this end the team would be out and about stopping vehicles and where appropriate carrying out enforcement action. But more important than enforcement was the education of road users by giving advice, top tips on safety and reminding road users of both the contents and spirit of the Highway Code. January’s theme was Road User Visibility, and throughout January they were stopping vehicles with Faulty lights, giving advice and requiring repairs to be carried out. They had attended at Salcombe Primary School and had put an input outlining road safety to the Children, which was well received.

Keith Bell of Egremont Trust advised that the Trust was formed March 2012 and then registered at Charities House to raise funds towards the upkeep and life extension of the boat and to raise funds for work with children from disadvantaged backgrounds. The Island Cruising Club had handed over the Egremont in May 2012 and the centre was now run as a not for profit organisation. The Trust approached HLF for finances for a restoration and education project. In October 2013 they passed the first stage and now must raise £30,090 matched funding and presently had £16000 and had a bid of £260,000 for the refit and educational part of the grant. The Trust were requesting a £2000 grant from Town Council. The matched funding would not be required if they did not receive a grant from HLF. The Mayor noted that town council’s budget was public money for community grants and thus this needed considering carefully and noted the boat needed to be in dry dock every 6 years. The Trust were also looking at brochures for schools to be able to look at the eco system around. Built in Dartmouth in 1952 the boat was not anti fouled so there was a lot of natural marine growth on her that was of interest to people. Within the grant the HLF wanted to see local community benefits so this aligned with town council policy. Cllr Cohen was aware of the first part of the consideration for the Trust and its external profile was for the community. Cllr Lang asked what the life expectancy of Egremont was and was advised that surveyors came down to consider this and if they stopped water going in to it they could keep it going. Cllr Fice asked what the ongoing program of maintenance was as historically it had not been done. Previously the boat was sent away in November/December so was taken away at the wrong time of year. It would now be sent away in October and they would look for a dry period to paint. It was asked had there ever been any exploration of creating an on the water exploration centre? Also it was noted that the bar still opened and was available for anyone as it was run as a separate entity but the ICC still had a small area that they hired at weekends although the bar was still open. Cllr Clark enquired if ICC did not own the boat anymore and were they a separate club and rented space. Egremont Trust run the sailing courses as a separate entity and hired ICC in.
Keith Bell and other members of the public left the meeting.

Cllr Biggs arrived.
District Councillor’s Report:
Dist Cllr Coulson noted that his report was mainly about flooding. Monday 3rd February Salcombe were moderately flooded but the main issue was at North Sands when a log came over the wall, hit a lorry and high pressure pumps etc got re arranged. The stream and sheer volume of water coming over the harbour wall meant the whole area was flooded and the Winking Prawn was at risk together with of course the adjacent sewage pumping station. A South West Water engineer did not arrive so District could not get in to put sandbags in the pumping station but the rising water stopped just below the electrics area.

Exjet from Torquay had performed superbly arriving to assist after the storms receded and staying on site until 3p.m. the following day clearing up the mess. Also District engineer Chris Brook undertook drawings; quantity surveying etc. to provide a solution. The Mayor noted he also had a lengthy conversation with Chris Brook on the drawings and proposals and noted with concern the depth feature of the culvert needed to carry the water. This project however was in the hands of the professionals to provide a solution.

The South Sands road substructure and wall had been removed by the storm and was now impassable. District provided their digger from North Sands and excavated out the sagging section of tarmac skin. A concrete tanker had poured concrete in to stabilise the area but the road was missing. Only route of access now was through Combe.

There had also been two trees down on Bennett Road and at Batson today. Salcombe in the main though had appeared to escape the storms reasonably well up till now.

Dist Cllr. Coulson noted that the Harbour Marine Pontoon had received the go ahead from the Appeal Inspector. Town Council noted the Appeal was against a condition for removal of the pontoon not the planning proposal itself and that the Harbour Master must approve this. Also he advised that the Brownwood garage as long as it remained ancillary to the main property was approved as it was ruled not overdevelopment. There was however tough restrictions on what it could be used for.

It was noted that District had written after the Town Council precept had been set to say that South Sands toilets like Portlemouth were to be closed during the winter of 2014. There were concerns as these two sets of toilets were at either end of the coastal walk.

The District Councillor sought the thoughts of Town Council with regard to a request for a liquor licence at the Crab Restaurant being established on Shadycombe Car Park. It was felt that this project was promoted as a crab or shell fish café with visitor centre and had now grown to a full blown restaurant wanting a liquor licence. Whilst this project had been agreed by District no decision was yet forthcoming on a crab processing plant that was having to move out of town, losing jobs. There was disquiet noted as Town Council had not been asked nor listened to through this whole process. Dist Cllr Coulson agreed that the whole project had grown from its initial proposal.

He advised that the first draft of the Development Brief for RA4 and the surrounding areas owned by SHDC had been produced. The industrial development area of Island Street and Bangers workshop had gone from SMEs to primarily restaurants, galleries, photo studios and cafes and very few marine businesses remained as they were priced out as the retail market could afford higher charges. So he felt Salcombe desperately needed a plan for RA4 with clear and coherent policies for such area which would preclude restaurants. He was asked what happening with regard to the earlier gas works area application but Dist Cllr Coulson had heard nothing on this. Within a month the brief draft for RA4 should be available. Cllr Biggs enquired whether this brief draft included uses such as the area in front of Captain Morgans and was advised ‘No’. A decision had not been made on this usage for tables and chairs and was purely an assets matter.

Cllr Cohen felt that in the context of the liquor licence consider he would like to think it would be ‘reasonable’ for councillors to be able to object out of conscience due to a decision by District that town council might have been unhappy with. All Town Council acknowledged that all businesses were struggling and in effect if District did not grant a licence did it take away possible business in the future. However the town drinking area would be stretched as would all intrusive lighting etc as this would now go around the back of the car park. Dist Cllr Coulson noted that the premise was that if an establishment was given a licence would users be pouring in and out at unsociable hours and to the detriment of people around. Thus he seemed to advise there was nothing that town council could do.


The Minutes of the meeting dated 8th January 2014 were approved by council and then duly signed by the Mayor as a true and correct record.


Councillors considered the following applications and sent such observations to the District as Planning Authority:
Cllr Biggs left the meeting whilst the following was considered.
• 2256/13/F Readvertisement (Revised plans received) Erection of new dwelling in garden plot Uppercot, Devon Road, Salcombe TQ8 8HJ – Applicant Mr H. McPhie – No objection. Concern however was noted with regard to the carrying out such works with regard to access and storing materials. A Construction plan was requested for time management on access routes, highway surfaces, storage etc.
• 0090/14/F Householder application for replacement carport, first floor sun lounge and front-facing terrace, and paved driveway 11 Beadon Road, Salcombe TQ8 8LX – Applicant Mr M. Wilcox – No objection.
• 0092/14/F Householder application for removal of existing garage and replace with two-storey side extension (resubmissionof 41/0196/13/F) Melbury Cottage, Herbert Road, Salcombe TQ8 8HN – Applicant Mr P. Smith – Objection as there were concerns with regard to the overlooking from the living area of this property of the neighbouring property and garden amenity.
• 0147/14/F Householder application for proposed chairlift to link house to car park Sunnycliff Hotel, Cliff Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JX – Mr M. Blackwell – No objection.
• 0224/14/F Householder application for single-storey extension and associated works. Deck with timber shed to store mobility scooter St. Christophers, Devon Road, Salcombe TQ8 8HQ – Applicant Mr and Mrs D. Broderic – No objection.
• 0237/14/F Householder application for amendment to application 41/2166/12/F for enlarged terrace and seamless glass balustrading, brass handrail, new steps and revised window/door openings Beadon Prior, Sandhills Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JP – Applicant Mr and Mrs Rusling – No objection.
• 0240/14/F Proposed balcony over existing bay window Upper Rock Park, Devon Road, Salcombe TQ8 8HJ – Applicant Miss M. Pike – No objection.
• 0252/14/F Householder application for restoration and modification of cottage. Replace parts of thatch roof with natural slate. Replacement of garage and hardstanding, and new extension Sunnycombe Lower Batson, Salcombe TQ8 8NJ – Applicant Mr A. Petrie – Objection. Overdevelopment due to the close proximity of the proposal to the adjacent property. It was also felt to be unneighbourly due to the overlooking from the raised terrace and the loss of amenity with the additional visual intrusion into the bedroom and living room of the neighbouring property. The change of material and design was felt to be out of keeping with a Conservation Area and AONB by removal of a thatched roof which was in keeping with the period of the property. Concern was noted for the streetscene and juxtaposition of the sunken garage together with its structural effect on the neighbouring the Listed Property. There were also concerns with regard to the engineering and construction process involved and such impact on the surroundings and approach lanes.
• 0253/14/LB Listed Building Consent for restoration and modification of cottage. Replace parts of thatch roof with natural slate. Replacement of garage and hardstanding, and new extension Sunnycombe Lower Batson, Salcombe TQ8 8NJ – Applicant Mr A. Petrie Objection (as above).
• 0266/14/F Householder application for two-storey extension to include replacement garage and balcony Meriden, St. Dunstan’s Road, Salcombe TQ8 8AR – Applicant Mrs E. Davis – No objection.


• 0153/14/TW Reg. No: 3466 Site The Plantation, Devon Road, Salcombe TQ8 8JJ Proposal – Compartment 1 Various species. Lift 2.5m above pavement and highway. Sycamore Reduce to leave a 5m habitat stump and retain for wildlife. Beech Reduce to a 5m habitat stump and retain for wildlife. Beech Initial crown reduction of up to 4 to 5m in height and crown spread – This application was felt to be of a size to need the expert input and advice of the Tree Officer.
• 0293/14/TW Reg No: 3473 (No.22) Site: Redfern Health Centre, Shadycombe Road, Salcombe TQ8 8ND Proposal to reduce Magnolia back from roof, walkway and railings to provide approximately 3m clearance.
– No objection.


• 0198/14/TW (No. 44) Reg: 3468 Site: Kinrara, Sandhills, Salcombe TQ8 8JP Grant to Remove main leader from Holm Oak. Prune back small diameter secondary’s away from BT lines to give approximately 1.5 to 2m clearance.


• 2790/13/TW App. No: 3444 Site: Stoneleigh, Main Road, Salcombe TQ8 8LW Refusal to fell Ilex Oak due to amenity value and significant impact of works.


• 3009/13/TW Reg. No: 3453 Site Murrawingi, Moult Road, Salcombe TQ8 8LG Consent to carry out works to Oak, Ilex Oaks and Scots Pine. To replace with Hornbeam, Rowan and a Field Maple.


• Most already forwarded by email for information.
• Letter of objection received from the neighbours of Sunnycombe 0252/F and 0253/LB.


It was advised that a tree at the perimeter of and within Shadycombe Cemetery had fallen requiring emergency works to remove such from leaning onto the adjacent property roof and car. An officer had attended the site and taken photographs before the works were requested and the cost for such removal of £340.00 was therefore RATIFIED.


It was noted that the Salcombe Primary School children were asked to come up with road name suggestions. It was AGREED that the four chosen choices for submission to District Council were:
McIlwraith Road – Road A
Motherhill Close – Road B
Carrs Lane – Road C
Orchard Road – Road D
and prizes of book tokens to each to the four winners would be provided out of the Chairman’s Allowance.
Dist Cllr. Coulson left the meeting


This item was DEFERRED to allow time to request a summary of what the £34000 funding obtained was being spent on and ask for sight of the application for the second stage of funding.
Toby of the Gazette left the meeting.


It was AGREED that:
• town council should join the Institute of Cemetery and Crematorium Management at a cost of £90 per annum
• the Cemetery Manager attend a Cemetery Management and Compliance Course in London on 13th March 2014 at a cost of £125 as a member plus travel expenses
• the Town Clerk attend the Larger Local Councils Conference in Oxford on the 27th – 28th March 2014 for Continuing Professional Development at a cost of £320.


Following an updated it was:
NOTED the feedback with regard to the Park and Ride layout plan which was currently being drawn up;
AGREED the timetable and charges for 2014 extending the bus running to 19.00 during the holiday times (therefore one bus commencing at 10.00 and the other at 12.00 with one to finish 6p.m. and the other continuing to 7 or even 8p.m.). The finance working party to look at costs increase for the bus times and finalise and
AGREED to write to the Yacht Club and the organiser up country with regard to the request that Merlin Rocket and other members boat trailers not be left within the Park and Ride taking up valuable car park spaces.
Cllr Ms. King left the meeting.


It was AGREED to accept the proposal with regard to volunteers from local shop businesses clearing and replanting the council car park open space area to enhance the entrance to Salcombe with town council to approve their planting plan and thereafter cover the cost of the materials at a figure to be agreed at a future meeting.


The Mayor advised he had spoken to Barbara Cutler from Herbert Road who enquired if there was a local appeal for the flood victims. She wanted to give something and therefore went away and found the Devon Community Foundation who was a registered charity who was helping flood victims. He had also spoken to Jill Headford Tozers solicitors with regard to legal issues in Salcombe. To move forward she needed to be instructed formally.


Cllr Clark – Met with Mr Weymouth to advise, as town council requested, of the current situation with regard to the alternative field and they were happy with this explanation as they were in no rush. He had apologised for the time taken but this was due to town council obtaining a traffic report and then seeking District agreement for such location. On another matter a resident mentioned that the three benches outside the old peoples centre on Victoria Quay were defective (middle one and one to right – foundations were crumbling away) and the quay wall was bowed in and might collapse into the sea shortly.

Cllr Fice – By Victoria Quay the other end (nearer the town) the benches and railings, huge holes had formed and the concrete coping was cracked. This would be reported to District. A resident also suggested that the town needed flood defences all around the Quay that could be put up when needed. Again as Coastal Protection authority this would be reported to District.

At the Regatta Committee meeting the previous week Mike Fice stood down as Chairman but members of the committee suggested that there should be more representation from Town Council into the Regatta. He did advised that at this point it was noted that currently two of the Regatta Committee members were town councillors.

Cllr Mrs Bricknell – At Main Road junction with St. Dunstans a highways brown sign was down indicating Overbecks. On a positive note she felt that the Local Lettings Scheme had worked at a Parkside flat because her daughter applied and with the most local connection points moved in. More boats were appearing at the bottom of Kingsale Road in a garden and enforcement would be advised.

Cllr Cohen – Noted obscene graffiti on a private property. Whilst this was felt to be in bad taste and needed attention it was felt that in the first instance a local approach to the property owner or contractors should be made.

Cllr Whitfield – At Ember/Jubilee Garden one tree planted was back up, one tree was not done and on the pathway one piece of wood painted yellow had been installed but was a trip hazard and not relieving the problem. The kick board around the fencing had not been installed. No response to the town clerk’s email had been received. There needed to be a padlock for the main gate into the field/park.

Cllr Collings – Noted Diana Paton’s call for assistance to highlight the library usage and asked that a sign be put up on the finger posts to direct people within town there. As this was a County function an approach should be made to them initially to highlight this lack.

Cllr Lang – Met with Lorna Yabsley, James Spencer, Sharon Salcombe IC and the Town Clerk and talked about signs for the junction with Fore Street and further sign for walking round to Victoria Quay and Customs House. James Spencer was to request consideration of the wording for these signs and such placement. Cllr Lang had also finished walking all the footpaths and a report on these footpaths which will be submitted to County.


• Works to carry out the tree management maintenance plan within The Berry had been carried out.
• Met with Colette Charsley to consider the Ember/Jubilee Gardens works and items that needed further consideration. An email was sent that she would forward on to the contractors and respond to Town Council in due course. With regard to the Remembrance Garden at Bonfire Hill it was felt that the siting of such adjacent to the footpath would not allow enough space for the safe scattering of ashes. It was suggested that other areas be considered and if people wished to plant something in remembrance they could contribute towards creating a Devon hedge along this perimeter and place and plaque below. Also with regard to the Council parking open space it was felt that due to the height of this area from the pavement if public were allowed in it would have to be fenced and this would defeat the idea of creating a focal point. The area would be best suited to be cleared, lined with matting and 6 inches of mulch being placed thereon with various small shrubs planted.
• Alex Sprowson had advised that the works had been completed and the scaffolding would be taken down later this week. Obviously this was now weather dependent due to safety. Other points the Mayor raised with regard to the toilet and draught through a window were noted and a response waited.
• Ian Thornett of War Graves Commission had emailed to request that a plaque be placed on the entrance fence to Bonfire Hill cemetery indicating that there were war graves within. The details of this were provided as a layout and an actual photo of a plaque installed to provide an idea of size and scale. They were in fact 430×230 and would be supplied and maintained by the Commission.
• Notter Bridge, Cornwall training centre for Chapter 8 Highways Act training for those working on the highway had confirmed that they would charge £75 for a day course to include all they feel necessary. County appear to be saying that the whole four day course needs to be taken. Whether an application to close a road (i.e. for Regatta) or work on the highway would require the Devon County training or whether town council could train at Notter Bridge for one day is unknown at present.
• Email dated 7th February from Luscombe Maye advised that Antony Stumbles, Partner, wished to attend the Berry on Monday 3rd March at 10a.m. to plant the Oak, in a prepared hole, with a photo opportunity and it was requested that the Mayor be present.
• Email received from the secretary of the Forster Road Residents Association to say he had received comments regarding the terracing being built at Swiss Cottage with concern raised about the soil being removed which could potentially lead to land slip affecting the houses above. Also email from a neighbour raising planning issues. Cllr Lang was to visit the site and feedback to this meeting. This was sited at the end of Forster Road behind these houses so would be passed to enforcement to consider the works.
• May Gurney have applied for a road closure to complete SWW Utility works at Baptist Lane, Salcombe. These works, subject to approval from Devon Highways, will take place from the 28/04/2014 to 11/05/2014
• Request received from Anne Rainbow who provided local training sessions on computer. She now provides for iPad/iPhone and needed wireless access which the library did not have. Asked if Town Council would allow them to use their wireless for two hours on the first Thursday each month between 15.00 and 17.00. It was felt that County Libraries should provide a wireless port which would not be difficult just to provide and connect.
• Letter dated 6th February 2014 from Stuart Jellings District Council advised that District now intended to close the South Sands public conveniences from November 2014. Responses to the proposals by 28th February. Whitestrand was being considered for an income stream and Town Council had already set their precept and thus could not contribute. The change would be challenged it was not made apparent before Town Council set their precept.
• Meeting with Information Centre, Chamber of Commerce, local business in Island Street, councillor and Town Clerk to consider interim signage to be paid for by the business group to direct people to Island Street businesses. The wording and locations would be passed to Adam Keay to consider and confirm and then ordered in the hope to install before Easter.
• County Council advised they were about to start a 45 day consultation period (3rd February 2014 -19th March 2014) and that consultation documents for services in the area were available on-line at A copy could be sent directly by email The review and consultation was taking place because more people it was said were choosing to pursue other hobbies and interests during the day, or attend other activities such as memory cafes or luncheon clubs in preference to attending Council owned day centres. Town Council were advised to consider this consultation.
• Centre Line had provided the technical data to Vickery Holman for the Park and Ride layout plans and these would be provided hopefully by next week.
• District Parish Cluster meeting to take place on 10th March and town council representative needed to be in attendance to vote/help decide upon the allocation of the TAP fund to applications. Consideration of the applications to be placed on the next agenda.
• Neighbourhood Plan – Monday 24th February 5p.m. at The Fortescue town councillors would consider the make up of a committee.


Councillors APPROVED the following cheques for signature:
SO Onebill Telecom January 2014 £31.00
003099 The Plaice – Chairman’s Allowance £100.00
003115 Dartmoor Horse Loggers – Berry Contract plus emergency work to Shadycombe Cemetery fallen tree £1080
003116 SHDC – Bonfire Hill Refuse £14.11
003117 Iain Randall – Maintenance Contract plus weed killer and moss killer cost for the year £649.83
003118 Mike Fice – Travel £40.80

The next meeting would be held on Wednesday 26th February 2014 in the Library at Cliff House, Cliff Road, Salcombe at 6.30p.m.

Meeting Closed: 22.10p.m.
………………………………………………….. 26th February 2014.
Town Mayor.

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